Ok, so I'm 6"1". I'm used to shorts that reach my knees or just below them. I bought these to be just above my knees for working out with them. They fit the bill. They're comfortable, lightweight and fit good. I'm about 220 lbs. with a 38" waist, and the 2xl fit me great. They do fit me a little on the looser side, so if you want them closer to the body, go with the XL if you're around my size. I actually order a backup pair a few weeks ago, so that speaks for itself.